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Ogtorguid togsgol baihgui, baihgui. Odoo tsagt ogtorgui togsgoltei gej barhiraad baigaa humuus urd nasandaa "Ertontsiin tovd gazar baidag, 3 halimnii nuruun deer baidag" gej surgaj baisan boloi. :D
Ter ertontsiin hyazgaar gej zaaj zuraad baigaa gazar ni ochood tsaash ni 1 alham zaid yavbal yah yum be? Neg yumand "TUG" geed tulaad zogschih yumuu? Esvel alga bolchih yumuu? :D :D


yag chig tugsgul geheeree neg hyzgaar baihiig heleed baiga um bish lde.
ugaasaa manai yurtunts telj baiga bilee. tegeed ene teluulj bga enrgy ni duusaad ireheer gravitats-n nuluuguur butsaad bugd neg tsegt tuvluruud erdemtdiin nerldgeer "big crunch' geh um ni bolj magdgui um. endees ter tugsgul geed baigaa zuilig energy duusaad butsaad yavah hemjeesiig tugsgul gej bas nerlej boloh um.( ter energy hezee ch duusahgui ch gesen taamaglala bas baigad bgan)
yag zarchimiin huvid bol yurtunts maani 3n helbertei baij bolno geed bgaan, neg ni buurnhii , ter ni tugsgulgui gesen ug. esuul dan hyzgaargui havtgai . 3 dahi ni hyzgaargui telsen helber.

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Lorentz-iin huvirgaltiin tomyonuudiig /Lorentz transformation/ gargahdaa tsag hugatsaa, oron zaig negen torol, mon hamgiin deed hurd gerliin hurd baina gedeg deer tulguurlaj gargadag.
Ertontsiig togsgolog hemjeetei gej surgaad baigaa onol ni anh negen tsegees ih delberelt gej yum bolood uussen gedeg. Herev ogtorguin buh tseg negen torol yum bol haana ni anhnii ertontsiig uusgesen ter tseg ni baih yostoi bolj baina aa? Odoo physics-chdiin hereglej baigaa hamgiin holiig mederdeg bagaj gevel gravitation-ii helbelzliig hemjdeg bagaj baina. Ter bagaj ni ch, er ni yamar ch bagaj baisan gesen todrohoi hyazgaar dotor l hemjne. Ter hemjij chadsan hyazgaaraas ni gadna oor galaxy, oor zuil baihgui gej yaj batalj baina?


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Ogtorguid togsgol baihgui, baihgui. Odoo tsagt ogtorgui togsgoltei gej barhiraad baigaa humuus urd nasandaa "Ertontsiin tovd gazar baidag, 3 halimnii nuruun deer baidag" gej surgaj baisan boloi. :D
Ter ertontsiin hyazgaar gej zaaj zuraad baigaa gazar ni ochood tsaash ni 1 alham zaid yavbal yah yum be? Neg yumand "TUG" geed tulaad zogschih yumuu? Esvel alga bolchih yumuu? :D :D


yag chig tugsgul geheeree neg hyzgaar baihiig heleed baiga um bish lde.
ugaasaa manai yurtunts telj baiga bilee. tegeed ene teluulj bga enrgy ni duusaad ireheer gravitats-n nuluuguur butsaad bugd neg tsegt tuvluruud erdemtdiin nerldgeer "big crunch' geh um ni bolj magdgui um. endees ter tugsgul geed baigaa zuilig energy duusaad butsaad yavah hemjeesiig tugsgul gej bas nerlej boloh um.( ter energy hezee ch duusahgui ch gesen taamaglala bas baigad bgan)
yag zarchimiin huvid bol yurtunts maani 3n helbertei baij bolno geed bgaan, neg ni buurnhii , ter ni tugsgulgui gesen ug. esuul dan hyzgaargui havtgai . 3 dahi ni hyzgaargui telsen helber.


sayahnii neg shinjleh uhaanii tuhai setguulees unshihad ertunts ni hyazgaargui telne gej baisan. ene ni vaakuumiin huchnees hamaardag gej baisan jishee ni zadgai sansart vaakuum orchind hiig oruullaa gehed ter ni taraad alga boldog bizdee teren shig ertunts hyazgaargui telne gej baisan.


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Olon yanziin energvvd ni hamgiin svvldee dulaanii energi bolj huwirdag...

Tegeheer manai ogtorgvi hyazgaartai ch, hyazgaargvi ch bai hezee negen mash udaan hugatsaanii daraa bvh zvil neg ijil dulaantai bolj taarch bna. Bvh ed zvils yums negen ijil dulaantai bolchihoor neg tiim tsartsangi yertunts vldne.
Ene ni ogtorguin tugsgul bolj taaraad bgaa um.

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He he. Neg yum helehed bi ohin bish shuu. End chini ertontsiin hyazgaariin tuhai yarij bgaa yumuu esvel ertontsiin muhuliin tuhai yarij bgaa yumuu buur oilgohoo bailaa.


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He he. Neg yum helehed bi ohin bish shuu. End chini ertontsiin hyazgaariin tuhai yarij bgaa yumuu esvel ertontsiin muhuliin tuhai yarij bgaa yumuu buur oilgohoo bailaa.


Ertonts hyazgaartai gevel mohoh nii ilerhii. Ayandaa bugd thermodynamic tentsvert orj yamar ch uil hodlol, huvisal ugui bolno.
Harin hyazgaargui gevel mohol suirel baihgui.


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Anri poincare systemiin emh zambaraagui baidal zaaval ihseh albagui. Haya emh zambaraatai baidal ruu ch shiljij bolno gedgiig magadlalaar uzuulsen. Tegheer zaaval neg tentsvert tolovt orood duusah albagui yum. Hugatsaa ongorhod oorhclolt huvisal yavagdah bolno.


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Oron zain huvid hyazgaargvi, togsgol geed neg ymand tulaad ochloo gehed ter tulj ochson ymnii chin tsaana ym bna biz de.


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Oron zain huvid hyazgaargvi, togsgol geed neg ymand tulaad ochloo gehed ter tulj ochson ymnii chin tsaana ym bna biz de.


tsaana ni ehlel ni bna. :redface:

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Oron zain huvid hyazgaargvi, togsgol geed neg ymand tulaad ochloo gehed ter tulj ochson ymnii chin tsaana ym bna biz de.

Baihgui bol yana. Zaaval yagaad baih albatai yum be?


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Oron zain huvid hyazgaargvi, togsgol geed neg ymand tulaad ochloo gehed ter tulj ochson ymnii chin tsaana ym bna biz de.

Baihgui bol yana. Zaaval yagaad baih albatai yum be?
BAIJ L TAARAA. TSAANA NI YAH ARGAGUI L NEG YUM BGAA DAA.

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Bugdiig ni unshij ih yum medlee.. gehdee..
Ertuntsiig tugsgultei uguig yarij baihad...

Burhan shashnii,. bas negen oron zai baidag shuu dee,,, Eniig yaaj tailbarlahsan bol....


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Oron zain huvid hyazgaargvi, togsgol geed neg ymand tulaad ochloo gehed ter tulj ochson ymnii chin tsaana ym bna biz de.


tsaana ni ehlel ni bna. :redface:


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Lorentz-iin huvirgaltiin tomyonuudiig /Lorentz transformation/ gargahdaa tsag hugatsaa, oron zaig negen torol, mon hamgiin deed hurd gerliin hurd baina gedeg deer tulguurlaj gargadag.
Ertontsiig togsgolog hemjeetei gej surgaad baigaa onol ni anh negen tsegees ih delberelt gej yum bolood uussen gedeg. Herev ogtorguin buh tseg negen torol yum bol haana ni anhnii ertontsiig uusgesen ter tseg ni baih yostoi bolj baina aa? Odoo physics-chdiin hereglej baigaa hamgiin holiig mederdeg bagaj gevel gravitation-ii helbelzliig hemjdeg bagaj baina. Ter bagaj ni ch, er ni yamar ch bagaj baisan gesen todrohoi hyazgaar dotor l hemjne. Ter hemjij chadsan hyazgaaraas ni gadna oor galaxy, oor zuil baihgui gej yaj batalj baina?


Lorentz huvirgalt maani zuvhun inertial toolliin systemuuded huchintei. Inertial bus toolliin systemuuded, esvel gravitatsiin orontoi inertial toolliin systemuuded Lorentz huvirgaltaas iluu yurunhii koordinat-hugatsaanii huvirgalt avch uzdeg. Ene ued oron zai - tsag hugatsaa negen turul ba isotrope baih albagui (gehdee ogtorgui - hugatsaanii yamar ch tsegiig toirson "baga hemjeetei" orchind ogtorgui - hugatsaa negen turul ba isotrope baih "huviin" toolliin system songoj avch boldog), mun fizik hemjigdehuunuudiig ilerhiileh matematik ilerhiilluud ni ogtorgui - hugatsaanii tseg burt uur uur baih koefficientees hamaardag. Ene koefficientiig ogtorgui - hugatsaanii tuhain tseg deerh geometr shinj chanariig (avch uzej bui toolliin systemtei haritsangui) ilerhiilj baina gej yaridag. Jishee ni, tegsh untsugt koordinatiin systemd (x,y) ba (x+dx,y+dy) tseguudiin hoorondoh zai dx^2+dy^2 baidag bol tuiliin koordinatiin systemd (r,phi) ba (r+dr,phi+dphi) tseguudiin hoorondoh zai dr^2+r^2dphi^2 baina. uunii dphi^2-iin umnuh koefficient r^2 ni tuhain (r,phi) tsegiin geometr shinj chanariig ilerhiilj baigaa bolno. u.h. r ni ihseh tusam ogtorgui maani phi-koordinatiinhaa huvid mash ih "telegdsen" baidaltai bolno gesen ug.

Umnuh jisheend garch baigaa "gaj" geometr ni toolliin systemtei holbootoi. ene "gaj" chanariig tegsh untsugt koordinatiin systemd shiljseneer hyalbarhan arilgaj bolno. Getel gravitatsiin orontoi toolliin systemd yamar ch (global) koordinatiin huvirgaltaar arilgaj bolohgui tiim "geometriin gajiltuud" ilerdeg. yagaad gevel tend "jinhene" buyu "fizik" geoemtriin gajilt uusch baigaa hereg. Einstein iim ogtorgui - hugatsaanii geometriin gajiltiig gravitatsiin oron uuruu yum gej uzeed, ogtorgui - hugatsaanii geometr shinj chanariig tuun dotorh materi - energiin tarhalttai holboson gravitatziin ornii yurunhii tegshitgeliig bichsen. Tegeheer, mash tom mashstabt yurtuntsiin geometr shinj yamar baih ve gedgiig odoogoor ajiglagdaj baigaa yurtuntsiin dundaj bodisiin tarhaltiig ornii tegshitgeld orluulan tavisnaar tootsoj bolno. 1917 ond Einstein yurtuntsiig negen turul (geometr shinj chanar ni tsegees tsegt uurchlugduhgui) ba hugatsaanaas ul hamaarna gej uzeed ornii tegshitgeliin shiidiig gargasan. ug shiid ni bumbulug geometrtei yurtuntsiin zagvar baisan.

Yurtuntsiin tseg bolgond tuunii geometr shinjiig ilerhiilsen koefficient hargalzuuldgiig deer durdsan. Yurtuntsiig "dundjaar" negen turul gej uzvel ene koefficient ni yurtuntsiin buh tsegt adilhan baih yostoi. Herev ene koefficient ni todorhoi shalguuriig hangadag bol, ogtorguin geometr ni 4 hemjeestei Euclid ogtorguid orshih bumburtsgiin gadarguu (3 hemjeest bumbulug) deerh geometrtei ijilhen baih yum. Medeej ene gadarguu ni 3 hemjeestei baina. Uund ehlel tugsgul gej baihgui. Neg tiishee garaad "chigeeree" yavsan sansriin hulug tugsgulug hugatsaanii daraa yavsan chigleliinhee esreg talaas butsaj irne. Ene yurtuntsiin ezelhuun tugsgulug buguud tugsgulug hemjeetei bodis aguulna. Gehdee 3 hemjeest Euclid ogtorguid orshih 2 hemjeest bumbulugt "dotor" ba "gadna" tal gej baidag shig manai yurtuntsud ogtorguin 3 tenhlegiin ali alind perpendikular 4 deh chigleld orshih "dotor" ba "gadna" tal gej baihgui. Zuvhun manai yurtuntsiin geometr shinj chanar 3 hemjeest bumbulugtei adil, uunees tuund "dotor", "gadna" tal baina gej murdun garahgui.

Einsteinii ene ajlaas hoish yurtuntsiin geometr shinj chanariig buheld ni haritsanguin yurunhii onold tulguurlan sudlasan olon buteeluud garsan. 1922 ond Orosiin Fridman anh yurtuntsiin hugatsaanaas hamaarah zagvariig devshuulsen. Gravitatsiin ornii tegshitgeluudees yurtuntsiin dundaj nyagtaas hamaaran 3 yanziin shiid garch baisan buguud edgeeriin neg ni ih nyagttai yurtuntsud hargalzah Einstein - de Sitteriin zagvar gej nerlegddeg radius ni hugatsaanaas hamaaran uurchlugduh bumbulug zagvar. Hugatsaanii teg agshind yurtuntsiin radius mash baga baina. uunees ehlen yurtunts telj ehleh buguud todorhoi hugatsaanii daraa butsaad agshina. Anhii yurtuntsiig uusgesen tseg gej baihgui. Ogtorguin buh tseg tegsh erhtei. Ogtorguig 4 hemjeest Euclid ogtorguid bairlasan telj bui bumbulguur tusuulbul, anhnii yurtuntsiig uusgesen tseg ni bumbulgiin "dotor" tald baina. Bid gadarguu deeguur hichneen ereed ene tsegiig olohgui. Gehdee iim "dotor tal" gej baihguig deer tailbarlasan.

Fridmanii tegshitgeld ene bumbulug geometrtei shiidees gadna tugsgulgui yurtuntsud hargalzah shiiduud bas bii. Edgeer ni baga nyagttai yurtuntsud hargazdag. Tegeheer yurunts bumbulug uu ugui yu gedgiig yurtuntsiin dundaj nyagtiig nariin hemjij baij shiidej bolno. Yamar ch baisan yurtunts barag havtgai, bumbulug bol mash tom hemjeetei gedeg ni oilgomjtoi.

Bidnii hemjij ajiglasan hamgiin holiin galaktikaas tsaash galaktik baihgui gej heleh yamar ch undeslel baihgui. Gehdee yamar neg dam argaar yurtunts tugsgulug gedgiig (medeej todorhoi zagvariin hureend) batalj bolno. jishee ni, odoogoor ajiglagdaj bui yurtuntsiin nyagt hangalttai ih gedeg ni batlagdval, ene ni bidnii ajiglasan hyazgaaraas tsaashaa dundjaar mun tiimerhuu nyagttai gej uzsenii undsen deer yurtunts buurunhii gedgiig Fridmanii zagvariin hureend batlaj bui hereg. Medeej yag bidnii ajiglasan hyazgaar dotor bodis ih nyagttai, tsaashaa mash siireg baihiig uguisgehgui. Mun Fridmanii zagvar maani Einsteinii tegshitgeluuded undeslegdsen bolohoor ene zagvariin unen eseh ni ug tegshitgeluudiin unen esehees hamaarna.

Ih tesreltiin onoliin neg tom batalgaa bol ertnii uldegdel tsatsargalt gedeg ogtorguig nelenhuid ni duurgesen negen turliin tsatsargalt. Bituu hairtsag dotorh gerliig photonii hii meteer uzej boldog. Saviig tomsgovol dotorh hii ni hurdgiig bid medne. Hervee yurtunts neg tsegees ehelsen buguud tesreltiin daraa ezelhuun ni telj baigaa bol, anhnii tesreltiin ued uussen gerliin photonuud odoog hurtel "tesej" uldsen bol udiid temperature ni buursan baih yostoi. Anh 1965 ond Bell companii laboratort ogtroguin zug burees ireh mash sul dohiog ilruulsen ni olon terbum jiliin umnu uussen photonuudiig burtgesen hereg baij. Temperature ni tootsootoi yag tag taarch baisan. Ter ued zuvhun medregdeh tudii baisan tsatsargaltiig unuu ued bolovsrongui hemjih bagajuudiin tuslamjtai ulam iluu nariin sudalj baina. Uunii neg ilrel ni 2003 ond erdemted ene uldegdel tsatsargalt ni davtamjiin spectriin huvid tugsgulgui yurtuntsud hargalzah onoliin ur dungees zurj baigaag ilruulsen yavdal bolno. Uuniig tailbarlah zorilgoor heseg erdemted oron zain daraah zagvariig devshuulsen. 4 hemjeestei Euclid ogtorguid orshih 3 hemjeestei bumbulug avch uzie. Ene bumbulugt 120 shirheg dodecahedron (12 shirheg zuv tavan untsugtuus buteh 3 hemjeest durs) bagtaaj bolno. (2 hemjeestei tohioldold bumbulug deeguur zavsargui bairlasan 12 shirheg zuv 5 untsugt). Ene 120 shirheg dodecahedroniig fizikiin huvid adiltgaad, gants dodecahedron gej uzne. uuruur ene 120 shirheg dodecahedron dotor buh bodis, atom molekuluudiin tarhalt yag ijil baina. tegeheer jishee ni, delhii maani 120 udaa bumbulug yurtuntsiin gadarguu deeguur huvilagdsan yum shig baina gesen ug. gehdee ene ni unendee 120 shirheg bish, gants shirheg delhii baigaatai yalgaagui yum.

Ene zagvaraas garah ur dunguud turshlagatai tohirch baigaa bolovch yurtunts tugsgulug gedgiig etseslen batalj bui hereg bish yum. Ingej helehiin tuld iluu olon nariin turshiltuud mun onoliin iluu nariin sudalgaanuud heregtei.

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Minii bodloor Marx - Engels nar yurtuntsiig yaj sudlahiig ni zaaj ugsun bolohoos bish "yurtunts tiim baidag" gesen yum heleegui shig sanah yum. Uuruur helbel Marx - Engels nar yurtunts tugsgulug baij medne gedgiig oilgohgui tiim t*n*g humuus baigaagui ni lav. Ernst Mach dialektikch baisan, Einstein Mach-iin filosofiig dagaj yavsaar baigaad haritsanguin yurunhii onoliig neesen. Haritsanguin yurunhii onoloos yurtunts tugsgulug baij medne gej gardag.

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Phylosopiin asuudliig physic geh met shinjleh uhaanaar shiiddeg bolhoos bish phylosopich neg ni bodsoor baigaad shiidchihdeg asuudal tun tsoohon baih.


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Kant bas helsen bdag sht, tsag hugatsaa oron zai ni zuvhun hunii oyun uhaand l baidag zuil gej.
tegj uzuul ene ogtorguin tugsgul yarih ni utaggui boloh um :?

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Kant tegvel hudlaa helsen yum shig baina.
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Kant bas helsen bdag sht, tsag hugatsaa oron zai ni zuvhun hunii oyun uhaand l baidag zuil gej.
tegj uzuul ene ogtorguin tugsgul yarih ni utaggui boloh um :?


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ene galaxy telseer baigaag batalsan baidag. teheer hezee negen tsagt bugd neg mash jijigheen tsul baisan magadgui odoo ch tiim baij magadgui.

Tiim bolohoor tsaashid tomorch telseer baih um chini hyazgaargui, baih ni ilerhii. lav l har uhaaanaar bodohod neg tiimerhuu um tusuulugduj bna.

erdemted tsaana chini ter talaar ih ahitstai baigaa suragtai, gevch mani met ni oilgohoorgui yrvigtai tomiyo orluulgiig hiisen biz.


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Minii bodloor Marx - Engels nar yurtuntsiig yaj sudlahiig ni zaaj ugsun bolohoos bish "yurtunts tiim baidag" gesen yum heleegui shig sanah yum. Uuruur helbel Marx - Engels nar yurtunts tugsgulug baij medne gedgiig oilgohgui tiim t*n*g humuus baigaagui ni lav. Ernst Mach dialektikch baisan, Einstein Mach-iin filosofiig dagaj yavsaar baigaad haritsanguin yurunhii onoliig neesen. Haritsanguin yurunhii onoloos yurtunts tugsgulug baij medne gej gardag.


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