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PostPosted: Sep.04.18 9:03 pm 
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2000 jiliin omno ted nogoon, tsenher nudtei ulaan, shar ustei Europoiduud bjee

The early Kyrgyz people, known as Yenisei Kyrgyz, have their origins in the western parts of modern-day Mongolia and first appear in written records in the Chinese annals of the Sima Qian's Records of the Grand Historian (compiled 109 BC to 91 BC), as Gekun (鬲昆, 隔昆) or Jiankun (堅昆). They were described in Tang Dynasty texts as having "red hair and green eyes", while those with dark hair and eyes were said to be descendants of a Chinese general Li Ling.[18] In Chinese sources, these Kyrgyz tribes were described as fair-skinned, green- or blue-eyed and red-haired people with a mixture of European and Mongol features.[19][20][21][22] The Middle Age Chinese composition Tanghuiyao of the 8–10th century transcribed the name "Kyrgyz" as Tsze-gu (Kirgut), and their tamga was depicted as identical to the tamga of present-day Kyrgyz tribes Azyk, Bugu, Cherik, Sary Bagysh and few others.[23]


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"The Andronovo have been described by archaeologists as exhibiting pronounced Europoid features.[16] A 2004 study also established that, during the Bronze/Iron Age period, the majority of the population of Kazakhstan (part of the Andronovo culture during Bronze Age), was of West Eurasian origin (with mtDNA haplogroups such as U, H, HV, T, I and W), and that prior to the thirteenth to seventh century BC, all Kazakh samples belonged to European lineages.[23] Other studies confirm, that during Bronze Age in areas to the north of present-day China, the boundary between Europoid and Mongoloid populations was on the eastern slopes of the Altai, in Western Mongolia.[24][25] Some Europoid influence extended also into Northeast Mongolia,[26] and the population of present-day Kazakhstan was Europoid during the Bronze/Iron Age period.[27] Archaeological investigations likewise suggest, that in the steppe region of Central Asia and the Altai Mountains, the first food production began towards the end of the 3rd millennium BC and that the peoples who first entered this region were Europoids of the Afanasevo culture who came from the Aral Sea area (Kelteminar culture).[28]

In 2009, a genetic study of ancient Siberian cultures, the Andronovo culture, the Karasuk culture, the Tagar culture and the Tashtyk culture, was published in Human Genetics.[16] Ten individuals of the Andronovo horizon in southern Siberia from 1400 BC to 1000 BC were surveyed.[16] Extractions of mtDNA from nine individuals were determined to represent two samples of haplogroup U4, one sample of Z1, one sample T1, one sample of U2e, one sample of T4, one sample of H, one sample of K2b and one sample of U5a1.[16] Extractions of Y-DNA from one individual was determined to belong to Y-DNA haplogroup C (but not C3), while the other two extractions were determined to belong to haplogroup R1a1a, which is thought to mark the eastward migration of the early Indo-Europeans.[16] Of the individuals surveyed only two (or 22%) were determined to be Mongoloid while seven (or 78%) were determined to be Europoid, with the majority being light-eyed and light-haired.[16]

In June 2015, another genetic study[29] surveyed one additional male and three female individuals of Andronovo culture. Extraction of Y-DNA from this individual was determined to belong to R1a1a1b2a2.[30] Extractions of mtDNA were determined to represent two samples of U4 and two samples of U2e.



Interestingly, in western Truvinian sample, the frequency of haplogroup R1a1a was considerably
lower than in the central sample. Based on the closeness of the Altai, which is populated by the representatives of a more Caucasoid SouthSiberian racial
type, it would be reasonable to expect the west–east decrease of the R1a1a frequency on the territory of Tuva. However, this was not observed, and the change of the haplogroup frequency was rather the opposite, as the eastern samples demonstrated maximum frequency of this haplogroup. At the first glance, the result obtained is paradoxical. Specifically, in terms of anthropology, the most Caucasoid population of the western parts of Tuva displays the minimum of haplogroup R1a1a, while in the most Mongoloid population of Todja, the maximum of this haplogroup is observed

http://medgenetics.ru/UserFile/File/...244-Y-Tuva.pdf


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PostPosted: Sep.04.18 9:13 pm 
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R1a1 Baigal nuur havid uuschee

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Turks = RESULT of Mongoloid males with R1a mating Caucasian women.
History and genetic just keeps surprising me again and again.

It seems the history of Turks and Central Asian cannot be determined just by Y-DNA and mtDNA studies, it's far more complicated than that.


Pazyryk culture

" Craniological studies of samples from the Pazyryk burials revealed the presence of both Mongoloid and Caucasoid components in this population.[6] quoting G. F. Debets on the physical characteristics of the population in the Pazyryk kurgans, records a mixed population. The men would seem to be part Mongoloid and the women Europoid.[7] "


Anayino culture

Sculptural reconstruction of men Lugovskyi burial
Ananyino culture. Gypsum. MMGerasimov work.


" Reconstruction of the mounds number 5, 6 show burial Stone Barn in racial make women Ural mixed type men - striking features of Central Asian Mongoloid."


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Even the Bulgars ) ( male and female reconstruction and anthropology)



" Traditionally, historians have associated the Bulgars with the Huns, who migrated out of Central Asia. Anthropological data collected from medieval Bulgar necropolises from Dobrudja, Crimea and the Ukrainian steppe have shown that Bulgars were a Caucasoid people with a small Mongoloid component and practiced circular type artificial cranial deformation.[69][70][71][72][73][74]


An examined population from an abandoned medieval cemetery showed mixed in anthropological terms with brachicranial Caucasoid type as the primary representatives followed by the Mongoloid admixed type. Women's were not significantly different from men but were more Caucasoid than men. Apparently, carriers of Mongoloid elements was a male part of the population that came to this territory as conquerors.[75] This finding is consistent with a model in which the Turkic languages were gradually imposed in Central Asia and East European Plain on Scythian and Uralic peoples with relatively little genetic admixture, another possible example of a language shift through elite dominance.[76][77] Ibn Fadlan, who visited Volga Bulgaria in the 10th century, describes the appearance of the Bulgars as "ailing" (pale) and "not ruddy" like the Rus' people.[78] "


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The palaeoanthropology of the Slab Grave culture:

"the people of the Slab Grave Culture were typical Mongoloids belonging to the northern branch of the great Mongoloid race."
source: Jeannine Davis-Kimball (Editor), Vladimir A. Bashilov (Editor), Leonid T. Yablonsky: Nomads of the Eurasian Steppes in the Early Iron Age - Berkley, 1995


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Mongoloid features had been originally acknowledged in the skeletal remains of a child found at the site of Malta. Alexeev (1998, 323) in his later publication was more cautious, stating that this area was “inhabited by a population of Mongoloid appearance.” Discussing the skeletal remains from the Zhoukoudian Upper Cave (the “Old Man”), Kamminga (1992) argues that this specimen being distinct from the “modern Mongoloid morphology” lies relatively close to that of the Ainu.

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Энэ цагаан арьстанууд бүүр Хятадын Ганьсу муж хүртэл байсан . Энэтхэг Европ хэлтнүүд Кавказаас тал бүр тийшээ нүүдэллэсний зарим нь төв азируу нүүдэллэсэн . Монголчууд ялангуяа баруун Монголчууд дээр үед эд нартай цус холилдсон . Wusun,Tocharian,Yuezhi гэх эдгээр цагаан арьстанууд бүгд Хүннүд ялагдаж уусах нь уусаж зарим нь дундад ази энэтхэгрүү зугтацгаасан

Уйгарууд бол эд нарын үр сад . Түрэг Монголчуудтай цус холилдоод одоо mongoloid caucasoid 50% 50% хавьцаа . Dilraba Dilmurat гээд энэ Уйгар охин Хятадад сүүлийн жилүүдэд их алдаршиж байгаа .

Адилхан нүүдэлчин байсан хэрнээ эдгээр цагаан арьстанууд Түрэг Монголчуудад байнга шахуу ялагддаг байсан . Түрэгүүд 6-р зуунд дундад азийг маш хурдан эзлэсэн .

Gokturk буюу Түрэгийн хаант улсыг байгуулсан гол овог болох Ашина нь цагаан арьстанууд байсан . Эргүнэ хунгийн домог нь явж явж эд нарын Хүннү нарт хядуулсан түүх байх магадлалтай . Монголчуудад энэ домог нь Түрэгүүдээс дамжиж ирсэн байх .

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NCA_D wrote:
Turks = RESULT of Mongoloid males with R1a mating Caucasian women.
History and genetic just keeps surprising me again and again.

It seems the history of Turks and Central Asian cannot be determined just by Y-DNA and mtDNA studies, it's far more complicated than that.


Pazyryk culture

" Craniological studies of samples from the Pazyryk burials revealed the presence of both Mongoloid and Caucasoid components in this population.[6] quoting G. F. Debets on the physical characteristics of the population in the Pazyryk kurgans, records a mixed population. The men would seem to be part Mongoloid and the women Europoid.[7] "


Anayino culture

Sculptural reconstruction of men Lugovskyi burial
Ananyino culture. Gypsum. MMGerasimov work.


" Reconstruction of the mounds number 5, 6 show burial Stone Barn in racial make women Ural mixed type men - striking features of Central Asian Mongoloid."


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showt ... sian-women


Ихэнхи насанд хүрсэн эрэгтэйчүүд нь алуулахаар ойлгомжтой л доо .Баруун зүг тусам Монголойд цус нь багасаад яг Түркүүд бол 10-25% л Монголойд гентэй

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Нүх миний дэргэд бол хятад манж шиг царай зүстэй амьтан байгаа байхдаа. :-D
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NAIMAN-NOMAD wrote:
Нүх миний дэргэд бол хятад манж шиг царай зүстэй амьтан байгаа байхдаа. :-D
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Энэ зурган дээр байгаа хүнээс би бараг ялгагдахгүй.Ялгаа нь жаахан шар үстэй төрсөн болохоос..Намайг харсан улс уйгар хасагтай их андуурдаг юм.Эрээнд нэг удаа очсон чинь хужаа нар шинжааны уйгар уу гээд асуугаад лай болоод байсан шүү..
Чамайг бол вьетнам уу хужаа юу гэж наана чинь асуудаг биз?
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NAIMAN-NOMAD wrote:
Засагтханы зартай эрчүүдийн төрх....



Усанд орж үзээгүй оркууд бна


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NCA_D wrote:
NAIMAN-NOMAD wrote:
Засагтханы зартай эрчүүдийн төрх....



Усанд орж үзээгүй оркууд бна

Монгол хүнийг байнга орк гэж нэрлэж доромжилсон Нүх сда чи найдвартай хужаа цустай. Чиний Ми овогт бүдүүн данжаад ах чинь монголчуудад оорцог гэсэн цол хоч өгөөд байна..Ми данжаад орк гэж далдуур хэлж байгаа юм. Дотор санаат өмхий хужаа чинь.Надад бол Ми овогтын царайг харахаар л шууд өмхий ханхлаад явчдаг юм шдээ.Тэхээр чиний царайг би бас харвал дотор муухайраад бөөлжис баас хүрээд явчихна биз.. :lol:

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УИХ-ын дарга М.Энхболд өөрийн албан ёсны facebook хуудастаа сошиал медиагийн тухай бичвэр нийтэлсэн байна. Тодруулбал тэрээр: "Бид бүгдээрээ эх орондоо хайртай. Зөвхөн хэдхэн хүн хайрлаад бусад нь хорлоод буй мэтээр сошиалд зохион байрлуулалттай их дайрах юм.Хүн бүр үзэл бодлоо чөлөөтэй илэрхийлэх эрхтэй ч бусдыг гүтгэх, харлуулах байдлаар хандаж болохгүй юм.
Сошиалын онцлог нь; эх сурвалжгүй, харлуулсан, муулсан, ор үндэслэлгүй мэдээлэл хурдан түгдэг юм билээ.
Үүнийг зарим нэг оорцог хүмүүс их ашиглаж байгаа нь харамсалтай. Идсэн эрүү хувхайрч идүүлсэн бут ургадаг хойно доо, үнэн, худлыг ялгах ухаан манай ард түмэнд бий." гэжээ.

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Эмэгтэй бол харваас Европойд

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Энэтхэг Европ хэлтнүүдийн тархалт . Зүүн тийшээ Монгол хүрч байгаа нь харагдаж байна

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